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Racing in europe post brexit

PostPost by: HCA » Thu Jan 21, 2021 11:49 am

My neighbour has a regional courier business agent for Chrono, DPD and others. he has been asked by them not to accept UK deliveries.

HOWEVER, result here - I ordered some drop links for my Evora from McGill Motorsport and ARB bushes from Powerflex direct. Both were brexit ready, zero rated the VAT, affixed customs form and gave to DPD. Four days later I get the parcels delivered by my La Poste lady with a smile - no demand for TVA or any handling charge :D I am 28€ better off now! Maybe there is a silver lining to this brexit nonsense :D I have another order with SJsportscars, so waiting to see if the same!
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PostPost by: HCA » Thu Jan 21, 2021 11:54 am

rgh0 wrote:So if the car is road registered and can be taken off the trailer and driving across the 20 metres of border crossing and then put back on the trailer then a ATA Carnet and related cost and paper work is not required ? :D

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Good lateral thinking! And maybe not that silly as I think an empty trailer, like a caravan, does not require a carnet.. :)
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PostPost by: nmauduit » Thu Jan 21, 2021 11:59 am

HCA wrote:My neighbour has a regional courier business agent for Chrono, DPD and others. he has been asked by them not to accept UK deliveries.

HOWEVER, result here - I ordered some drop links for my Evora from McGill Motorsport and ARB bushes from Powerflex direct. Both were brexit ready, zero rated the VAT, affixed customs form and gave to DPD. Four days later I get the parcels delivered by my La Poste lady with a smile - no demand for TVA or any handling charge :D I am 28€ better off now! Maybe there is a silver lining to this brexit nonsense :D I have another order with SJsportscars, so waiting to see if the same!


ok thank's, DPD it is then...

I have parts that have been waiting for my care in the UK for quite a while now, it's about time I get them nearby in case the situation gets stucks...
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PostPost by: HCA » Thu Jan 21, 2021 1:51 pm

Or, just have the sender use Royal Mail.
Let us know if you get them tva free.
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PostPost by: Frogelan » Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:11 pm

Gentlemen

Just a word of warning...The post lady can ring twice...

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... ort-duties
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PostPost by: batfish » Thu Jan 21, 2021 9:40 pm

Just been reading on another forum that as long as the car on the trailer has a V5 and is insured you do not need a carnet however the trailer now requires to be insured and have a green card.
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PostPost by: Frogelan » Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:59 pm

@ Andy

On reading your observation about the trailer, in France at least, trailers have their own registration documents (and plates) when they are 750kg and braked.

It might be prudent to have proof of ownership as well as specific insurance if this can be done (here the insurance has always been an additional expense, as it probably is in GB).

With the Covid business (especially the highly scary English super strength version that Mr Johnson has been droning on about that has thoroughly wound up continentals like myself) I suspect that there will be plenty of time to see if the MSA can come up with some solutions.

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PostPost by: JCR1 » Sat Jul 17, 2021 3:27 pm

Andy8421 wrote:
Frogelan wrote:Other options ?

Why not drive to events...on the road?



HSCC Historic roadsports championship is for road legal cars, with additional championship points for those who drive their car to the circuit.

https://hscc.org.uk/championships/hscc-historic-road-sports/

I have an S3 built to roadsports spec, which I raced a few years ago. I would not want to drive it on the road for any distance. No usable power below 2500rpm, a clutch that is either on or off, brakes that don't really work cold and an exhaust that frightens passers by.

It needed an MOT to be eligible for the championship, and I would drive it to the MOT centre and back. Dropping the clutch at 3500rpm at the traffic lights in the town centre to stop the engine bogging down and leaving a trail of rubber made me look like a hooligan.

The roadsport spec allows a reasonable amount of modification, and to be competitive you need to push the envelope as far as you can, but even so it is no where near 'full race'. I can only image what it would be like to try to drive a fully prepared car on the road.


Sorry, a bit late on this, but I drove my Elan S4 to all the races in the 2020 70's Roadsports Championship with a twin plate (on/off) clutch , which was frustrating in traffic, but 'do able'. We won 3 races overall, mainly against the mighty Morgan (that won 2 races overall) , so it is achievable (driving to the circuit). I probably should state that the only reason I decided to drive to the circuits was that I was 'almost' beaten by a car that drove to the circuits the previous season (extra points), it didn't finish higher than 6th and nearly beat me to the championship by gaining those extra points! Fortunately we didn't need them, but it was 'insurance' against the guys who 'arrive and drive with teams!)
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PostPost by: Brad B » Sat Jul 17, 2021 4:09 pm

Last night I saw a YouTube report by Misha Charoudin on flood damage in the Nurburgring area.
I believe he mentioned a group from UK was expected there this weekend for a track day event. I interpret that to mean no quarantine period for quick visits from England?
Very sad time for those that have lost family, friends, and homes.
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PostPost by: Frogelan » Sat Jul 17, 2021 5:33 pm

Brad

I'm not sure about the comments by MC, but Europe in general is very wary of the Johnson variant arriving, especially after the UEFA spreading campaign.

It has been the case that it is possible to get an "elite athlete" exemption for historic racing if help with the red tape is accepted by the organisers.

As for the observations relating to the Carnet, I suspect that the authorities are going to be much more interested in the various car dealers who spanner / race rather than the impecunious enthusiast.

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