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nice picture!

Thanks Cobber ed

FOUND THIS PIC AT THE START OF THE REASSEMBLY --HARD TO BELIEVE IT TURNED OUT THIS WELL this was barn fresh right off the truck ---chiken poop and all -ed

"That is clearly the car I posted a link to the model of back on the last page; LM 1964 driven by P.Gele/R.Richard, when did Jackie Oliver drive this one David? I'm more used to another 26/R being described as "the Jackie Oliver car".
Is that a period photo or a more recent one? Who is the copyright holder, could you post a link?"

Pete, Dave

The photo is on page 71 of the Wherrett book. There is no photographer acknowledged. The caption reads "Photographed at the 1964 Le Mans 24 Hours is the 26R of Richard Gele;" It goes on to say "Team Lotus entered a 26R driven by Jackie Oliver" but does not say this is his car, which it clearly is not.

In addition, 1962 was the last year Team Lotus entered Le Mans, when the French found fault with the Type 23 and Chapman swore Lotus would never again race at Le Mans. I also believe that Team Lotus never entered a 26R in any race, though they heavily supported the Walker team and that Ray Parsons, a Team Lotus mechanic, prepared and entered a 26R in his own name.

I hasten to add that I stand to be corrected on all this, but it seems to me that Jackie Oliver racing a 26R was either under his own name or another team. He didn't become a Lotus works driver until 1967, I believe.

Tim

trw99 wrote:........

The photo is on page 71 of the Wherrett book. There is no photographer acknowledged. The caption reads "Photographed at the 1964 Le Mans 24 Hours is the 26R of Richard Gele;" It goes on to say "Team Lotus entered a 26R driven by Jackie Oliver" but does not say this is his car, which it clearly is not.

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Tim

The Wherrett book is a nice little thing, with some lovely photos; however some of the words are at odds with what is established as fact elsewhere. Allegedly.

Attached is the entry list and, unless anyone knows better, I'm assuming that car #66, entered by Ian Walker racing (no named drivers) was the car intended for Oliver. It is listed as DNA, presumably this means "did not arrive", although we are used to seeing DNS for "did not start".
http://www.formula2.net/1964.htm

The Walker Elan drivers who spring to mind from 64 are Whitmore, Hegbourne, Spence and Arundell but hey, what do I know? I was just out of short pants that year!

I have always been led to believe that Team Lotus did not run any Elans under their own name, although there may have been folks who ran green with a yellow stripe 26Rs.

Hi All
Recently been sent these pics from a friend in the USA.

Does anybody recognise the yellow car?

The Blue Grey car is Peter Pulver in 26-R-9.

The circuit is Thompson in CT in 1965

Cheers

original photographer unknown pics will be removed if requested by copyright holder

Old English White wrote:About Jackie Oliver's car,
I bought a set of small pictures (one is signed by J. Oliver , another show overnight work on the car), of its "as 26R serie1" period.
It started dark red, plain mag wheels, popup headlights... and was allready winning.
Far from its winning car at the french "Coupes de Paris" Montlh?ry sept 65', where he clearly drove an 26R S2 looking car, with flared wings, chinese eyes, short front bumper. Another car !?!
If having paid for them allow me to scan and show, please tell, as no visible names could be read for copyright.
Christian.

Christian,
The safe way to show your photos is to put them up with a disclaimer- "purchased prints, photographer unknown; will remove them if requested by copyright holder" or something like that.

Those steps adjacent to the finish line are a major clue (although not to me ), judging by the clothes and hair of the folks I'd say that the car was no more than 2 years old when the shots were taken. Fabulous! Did you buy any more? What size were the prints?

Christian,

That second photo is brilliant! It really tells a story.

Thanks for showing it.

Cheers - rd

Old English White wrote:... Pete ,


...You may change your opinion about the Lotus team not entering any Elan ...


Christian.

Raelly!? I have a copy of EDIT: WILLIAM's book (two actually, one as an investment, still in packaging), Obviously I have not read it carefully.