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Brake fluid

PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 11:59 am
by steveww
I have been recommended Castrol SRF (Dot 4) brake fluid. Does anyone know if this stuff is OK to use in the Elan's brake system?

Of course I would flush through with the new stuff to ensure that as little as possible of the old fluid remains.

Re: Brake fluid

PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 12:29 pm
by MintSprint
Dot 4 will be fine. It's Dot 5 (synthetic) fluid that is incompatible with the others (confusingly, Dot 5.1 is mineral and is also okto mix with other Dot ratings).

Re: Brake fluid

PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 1:05 pm
by Dag-Henning
- I race with Castrol SRF ( DOT 4 ) . No problems at all.

Dag

Re: Brake fluid

PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 1:05 pm
by rgh0
I used SRF for a number of years in my Elan without problems. I changed to other competition brake fluids a while ago now as the SRF became to exspensive in Australia.

cheers
Rohan

Re: Brake fluid

PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 5:20 pm
by steveww
rgh0 wrote:I used SRF for a number of years in my Elan without problems. I changed to other competition brake fluids a while ago now as the SRF became to exspensive in Australia.

cheers
Rohan


It is not so cheap here either :shock: However it has been recommended by a number of people I know and trust.

Castrol BF

PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 2:08 am
by Britcarfxr
What is the difference between Castrol SRF and LMA?

Re: Brake fluid

PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 8:41 am
by steveww
Castrol LMA is less expensive and has a much lower boiling point. The SRF stuff is mainly used for racing where brake temps are much higher. I was finding that the brake pedal was going soft by the end of a track day session and the pad temps were with in their parameters, so higher temp fluid is the next step.

Re: Brake fluid

PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:44 am
by Dag-Henning
- even if it's expensive, do not "forget" to change it.....It is hygroscopic, and having breaks is a good thing...... :wink:

Dag

Re: Brake fluid

PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 5:55 pm
by patrics
Steve,
Silicon Ester Racing Fluid (SRF) will be okay in an Elan and is probably one of the better fluids out there. Don?t confuse Silicon with the unsuitable silicone fluid and it is miscible with DOT 3 and 4 fluids. It also has a much higher boiling point than DOT 5 and is less hygroscopic compared standard fluids.
LMA is an old fluid developed by Castrol in the 1960s

Regards
Steve

Re: Brake fluid

PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 12:11 pm
by bcmc33
In my experience brake fluid used to be hydroscopic.

If it now hygroscopic - is this due to the silicon content?



Brian Clarke
(1972 Sprint)

Re: Brake fluid

PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 1:57 pm
by patrics
Hi Brian,
It's always been hygroscopic regardless of content.

Cheers
Steve

Re: Brake fluid

PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 4:06 pm
by bcmc33
Not knowing a lot about brake fluid, and to put my simple mind at rest, I checked some 'facts', and verified that:

DOT3 & DOT4 fluids absorb water (makes solution), and is therefore, hydroscopic.

DOT 5 & DOT 5.1 fluids adsorb water (attracts only), and is therefore, hygroscopic.

Knowing the difference between hydroscopic and hygroscopic became quite an important issue in my transmission days.



Brian Clarke
(1972 Sprint)

Re: Brake fluid

PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 10:11 pm
by patrics
Hi Brian,
I do know a lot about brake fluid. Hygroscopic means the ability to attract water molecules, Hydroscopic ? not sure it?s a real word - may be in America
The DOT rating has nothing to do with hygroscopic its just a performance standards ie if a fluid meets a boiling point, low or high temperature viscosity etc In America it is FMVSS 116
At the end of the day we can call it what we like because absolutely everybody will understand what we both mean.
Cheers
Steve

Re: Brake fluid

PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 9:33 pm
by Midlife
Does anyone use AP 551 racing? its dot3 but has a higher dry boiling point than bog standard off the shelf dot4/5.1...

Doug

Brake Fluid

PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 12:36 am
by pamitchell
Hello all;

ATE SuperBlue far out performs Castrol LMA:


http://www.volvoclub.org.uk/faq/BrakeFl ... rison.html