Odd wear on brake pads

PostPost by: robb4100 » Tue Oct 11, 2011 2:33 am

My brakes often squeal and when I checked them out I found this circular wear pattern on the back of the brake pads. Does anyone have an idea of how to stop this wear and stop the squealing.
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PostPost by: robb4100 » Tue Oct 11, 2011 2:44 am

Here is the picture without having to go to the link
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PostPost by: UAB807F » Tue Oct 11, 2011 6:03 am

Hi Robb,

Do you have the stainless shims fitted, like in this sketch ? I think they are required to stop the pads rattling about & were at one time called "anti-squeal" shims.

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PostPost by: robertverhey » Tue Oct 11, 2011 7:30 am

More likely the piston itself surely?
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PostPost by: AHM » Tue Oct 11, 2011 8:49 am

You will need the shims - notice that they are directional and only shim half of the piston.

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PostPost by: robb4100 » Tue Oct 11, 2011 11:33 am

Thanks Brian,

No I do not have the shims fitted. Do you know where they can be purchased in the US?

Also I tried the Thin aluminum sticky shims that fit over the entire back of the pad. This caused the brakes to be engaged at all times- the piston did not retract far enough. Is this symptom of a different problem. The pads only have 1K miles on them so I assume that there is not enough wear on them to allow both the full back shim and new pads.

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PostPost by: UAB807F » Tue Oct 11, 2011 4:00 pm

robb4100 wrote:No I do not have the shims fitted. Do you know where they can be purchased in the US?

Also I tried the Thin aluminum sticky shims that fit over the entire back of the pad. This caused the brakes to be engaged at all times- the piston did not retract far enough. Is this symptom of a different problem. The pads only have 1K miles on them so I assume that there is not enough wear on them to allow both the full back shim and new pads.


Hi Robb,
The shims are fairly standard items and nothing "Lotus special" so you might be able to buy them at your local parts store but they are also listed by RD Enterprises. They are very thin stainless steel, probably 0.020"-0.030" or so, certainly not much more and are easily sent by post if you can't get locally. They are fitted to lots of British cars using the same sized caliper, eg Triumph spitfires, heralds, gt6, etc.

The second issue I don't know about, I guess it's how thick the Aluminium shims are. Normally even with new pads there is still a slight clearance - I presume the pistons are free to move in & out ?
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PostPost by: robb4100 » Wed Oct 12, 2011 3:26 am

I got some shims from RD but they did not have the space for the piston cut out. Was I supposed to cut them out? or is there a different set of shims?

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PostPost by: patrics » Wed Oct 12, 2011 6:44 pm

Hi Robb,
The picture doesn't look right but might be a trick of the light.

Is that a big hole in the backplate?

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PostPost by: robb4100 » Thu Oct 13, 2011 1:01 am

Steve,

I see what you mean- yes it is an optical illusion there is not a hole in the back but there is a round circle the size of the piston that is worn into the gold colored backing on the pad. there are linear wear marks from the vibration.
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